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HOST:
MIT Communications Forum




Our World Digitized: The Good, the Bad, the Ugly
April 10, 2008
5:00 PM

LOCATION:
Bartos Theater



   
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Our World Digitized: The Good, the Bad, the Ugly

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MODERATOR:
Henry Jenkins
Peter de Florez Professor of Humanities
Director of Comparative Media Studies Program


MODERATOR: Henry Jenkins
Jenkins' website
Education Arcade site

PANELISTS:
Cass Sunstein: Karl N. Llewellyn Distinguished Service Professor of Jurisprudence, Law School and Department of Political Science, University of Chicago
Sunstein's Chicago website

Yochai Benkler: Berkman Professor of Entrepreneurial Legal Studies
Co-director, Berkman Center for Internet and Society, Harvard University
Benkler at the Berkman Center

ABOUT THE PANEL DISCUSSION:
In conversation with Henry Jenkins, these speakers don’t so much square off as share their hopes and fears for the emergence of online democracy.

The first order of business, instructs Jenkins, is taking stock of the current “communication space” to assess whether current practices encourage the growth of digital democracy.
Cass Sunstein gives the Internet a C-, for its “babble and excellence…brilliant insight and cruelty, that are not from the standpoint of self-government…what we deserve.”
Yochai Benkler, describing the “good public sphere,” focuses less on sheer freedom of expression, and more on how people participate in “production of an agenda,” and how they are enabled to “investigate, pursue, differ, err, correct and discuss.”

Sunstein bemoans the common opinion in the “geek world” that if you’re sovereign over your own options, you can “declare victory and go home.” In Sunstein’s version of a well-functioning system of communication, “you don’t construct a daily me, your communications cocoon, your little information chamber,” but embrace “unanticipated exposure and shared experience.” Such moments energize people, shifting them from passivity to active citizenship, declares Sunstein.

Benkler sees the Internet as couched in the larger framework of power and elites, where government or commercially directed mass media typically produce our common experiences. But now, with the Web, “instead of having a few hundred or a few thousand people with a genuine ability to set the agenda, we instead have two to three million people who believe they can affect the agenda without kidding themselves too badly. That seems like a larger population that can push on power.” This is a “significant change in citizenship from the idea of sitting in front of the TV.” He finds particularly attractive organizations like Netroots, which prod traditional political parties in certain directions.

But there’s a possibility for fragmentation, and even dangerous polarization, Sunstein worries, with online communities clustering around similar interests and erecting bulwarks against contrary thinking. “The notion that freedom of choice, the ability to self-select and produce our own information content is a full cure for what ails us, runs into obstacles,” he says. Benkler, though, believes the tendency to “tell each other how great and right we are and how wrong they are” is a plausible description “of how we’ve always been.” He is happily observing a new generation of children grow up deeply imbedded in new technologies that help them develop an “attitude of seeking and being able to find.”

Sunstein summons his muse, Jane Jacobs, to describe his ideal: an Internet metropolis that mirrors the best an American city offers. “Walking along some street, you see a person, interaction, building that stuns you…If you really look, the fertility and surprise of that will alter what you’re interested in, what you care about, your aesthetic and even political sense.” Sunstein dreams of a digital world designed for serendipity, as well as norms of interaction, (such as on Wikipedia) that promote collaboration, self-correction and the prevention of lies and cruelty.

NOTES ON THE VIDEO (Time Index):
Video length is 1:59:11.

David Thorburn, Director, Communications Forum, introduces the event, and the three speakers. He then welcomes Ellen Hume, Research Director of the Center for Future Civic Media, MIT.

At 6:00, Hume begins.

At 7:15, Henry Jenkins begins the discussion, reading three statements written by the speakers to set up criteria for evaluating online democracy.

At 27:00, Jenkins asks if we are in danger of excessive fragmentation or insularity.

At 52:27, Jenkins asks what the speakers believe Wikipedia tells us about civil society and the collaborative production of knowledge.

At 1:03:52, Jenkins asks what motivates citizenship in the new world, and what skills are required.

At 1:12:37, Jenkins invites Q&A. Questions include:

How much do tools for communicating affect the discourse, and will new tools change the hardwiring of the exchange of information?
As shared communities grow, are they likely to produce more surface kinds of communication?
Why isn’t wiki-style newsgathering as successful as other wikis?
Aren’t clusters and polarization valuable in online citizenry?
Is there inherent value to playing on the Internet, not simply as preparation to civic engagement?
Should we worry that a small number of people on the Internet can wield a disproportionate influence over the real world?
As virtual worlds become more real, and face to face video communication increasingly possible, how will that affect online citizenship?

The information on this page was accurate as of the day the video was added to MIT World. This video was added to MIT World on 2008-07-14.
       

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