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Can Nuclear Energy and Non-Proliferation Co-Exist?

Moderator: Owen Coté Jr. PhD '96
Matthew Bunn 85, SM '85, PhD '07
Marvin Miller
Geoff Forden
March 15, 2007
Running Time: 1:53:58
About the Lecture

About the Lecture

If nuclear energy becomes a central tool in addressing climate change, will nuclear weapons proliferation inevitably follow? In the words of Matthew Bunn, “The horse ain’t entirely out of the barn—there are still things to do.” He and fellow panelists acknowledge the link between civilian nuclear energy programs and military use of the atom, but try to find a middle ground, where technical and institutional roadblocks prevent the spread of deadly weapons to nations and terrorists.

For starters, Bunn recommends tackling the hard-core cases, Iran and North Korea. If they became established nuclear nations, they would present “a huge blow to the non-proliferation regime.” Give them a “package of multilateral carrots and sticks large and credible enough” to convince them to drop their pursuit of weapons, Bunn suggests. He also advocates reducing demand for nuclear weapons “through alliances that extend a defense umbrella, resolving regional conflicts and granting more status to non-nuclear weapons states;” beefing up verification, inspection, and enforcement, with more access to sites; and preventing future black market networks from arising. He describes a chilling number of nuclear material thefts, and suggests that international sabotage of a reactor is more likely than a safety accident, so the nuclear industry should “bring its worst security performers up to level.”

In 1945, as a grade school student, Marvin Miller remembers singing “a hymn of praise to the bomb in school assembly.” While the public regarded it as the weapon that won World War 2, Miller, in his history of the early post-war period, recalls that many scientists and statesmen were both hopeful of the promise of nuclear power, and deeply concerned about proliferation and an arms race. In March 1946, the Acheson-Lilienthal report warned that international inspections would not be enough to prevent the misuse of peaceful nuclear facilities, and recommended a central, international authority monitor and control uranium enrichment, mining and the production of plutonium. The world wasn’t ready for such a solution then, says Miller. Is it ready for it now? Miller believes that U.S. national security and international stability are best served “by taking concrete steps toward a nuclear weapons-free world.”

The non-proliferation treaty has become outmoded, says Geoff Forden. It is basically a bargain between nations in the atomic club, who promise access to peaceful nuclear technology to nations outside the club, if those without weapons pledge not to pursue them. But with the globalization of precision engineering and sophisticated manufacturing techniques, there are no longer barriers to acquiring nuclear know-how and materials. Nuclear profiteers such as Pakistan’s A.Q. Khan, have also provided a fast track to nuclear systems. So “we should proceed with a new philosophy,” says Forden, increasing international involvement in every country’s nuclear programs -- including intrusive inspections, and an international auditing authority to monitor letters of credit exchanged electronically. Forden also proposes placing an international enrichment facility on Iranian soil, allowing that nation access to nuclear fuel through “black box” technology that won’t permit theft of material or engineering. In exchange, Iran would agree not to acquire nuclear weapons.

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“The reality is, so far, despite major blows to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty in recent years, we haven’t seen an accompanying spread of nuke weapons. The number of nuclear states is nine today, and 20 years ago, it was nine. ... We have some significant probability of 20 years from now having none. We shouldn’t be giving up. ”

Matthew Bunn

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Moderator: Owen Coté Jr. PhD '96

Associate Director, MIT Securities Studies Program Co-Editor of International Security

Prior to joining MIT's Security Studies Program in 1997, Owen R. Coté, Jr. was Assistant Director of the International Security Program at Harvard's Center for Science and International Affairs. He received his Ph.D. from MIT, where he specialized in U.S. defense policy and international security affairs. He is the author of The Third Battle: Innovation in the U.S. Navy's Silent Cold War Struggle with Soviet Submarines, a book analyzing the sources of the U.S. Navy's success in its Cold War antisubmarine warfare effort, and a co-author of Avoiding Nuclear Anarchy: Containing the Threat of Loose Russian Nuclear Weapons and Fissile Material.

Coté has also worked at the Hudson Institute and the Center for Naval Analyses.

Matthew Bunn 85, SM '85, PhD '07

Senior Research Associate, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University

Marvin Miller

Research Affiliate, Science, Technology and Global Security Working Group, MIT Program in Science, Technology and Society

Geoff Forden

Research Associate, Science, Technology and Global Security Working Group, MIT program in Science, Technology and Society

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